Thursday, January 12, 2012

Why I Can't EVER Support Ron Paul

(H/T Donna Gardner)
Ron Paul: Hostile To Our Military

 Ron Paul has teamed with far-left liberal Barney Frank (D-MA) to propose massive reductions in military spending, far beyond those Barack Obama is imposing. Obama is instituting approximately $500 billion in cuts to the Pentagon's budget over the next ten years. In 2010, Paul and Frank pushed a proposal by the Sustainable Defense Task Force calling for cuts of $1 trillion.i Not surprisingly, most members on the Sustainable Defense Task Force have connections to George Soros'-funded organizationsii and other radical groups like the Democratic Socialists of America.iii

 Paul routinely refers to America as an "empire" and insists we are "occupying" over one hundred countries. Conjuring images of mercenaries, Paul's obvious insinuation is that our soldiers are "imperial occupiers." But as Bret Stephens of the Wall Street Journal has noted:

"The bulk of U.S. forces deployed overseas … are stationed in just seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Japan, South Korea, Germany, the U.K. and Italy, all of which are home to at least 9,000 troops. Aside from Afghanistan and Iraq (which may soon drop off that list) all of these are World War II and Cold War legacies. Another five countries—Spain, Turkey, Belgium (the headquarters of NATO), Bahrain and Djibouti—have between 1,000 and 1,500 troops. The next largest deployments are Portugal (703), Qatar (555) Honduras (403) and Greece (338)."iv

Are we "occupying" our allies who invited and welcome our military presence? To get 100+ "occupied" countries is difficult unless you include the small Marine detachments protecting U.S. embassies.

 In May 2010, Paul was also one of just five House Republicans to vote to repeal the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, thereby allowing open homosexuality in the military.v

Ron Paul: Hostile To Israel

 Examples of Paul's hostility toward Israel are almost too numerous to list. But in 2009, Ron Paul was the only Republican and one of just five members of the House -- along with Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and Maxine Waters (D-CA) -- to oppose House Resolution 34, condemning Hamas as a terrorist organization and expressing America's support for Israel's right to defend itself from repeated rocket attacks from As an example of Paul's warped mindset, he took to the House floor to oppose House Resolution 34 and stated that Hamas was "encouraged and started by Israel," a gross misinterpretation of historical events.vii Hamas was started by the Muslim Brotherhood and its charter calls for the destruction of Israel.viii

Ron Paul: Hostile To Ronald Reagan

 In 1987, as he was preparing his third party presidential bid, Paul formally resigned from the Republican Party and blamed, of all people, Ronald Reagan for his leaving. Here is an excerpt of Paul's letter:

"I want to totally disassociate myself from the policies that have given us unprecedented deficits, massive monetary inflation, indiscriminate military spending, an
irrational and unconstitutional foreign policy, zooming foreign aid, the exaltation of international banking, and the attack on our personal liberties and privacy. …There is no credibility left for the Republican Party as a force to reduce the size of government. That is the message of the Reagan years. …I therefore resign my membership in the Republican Party and enclose my membership card."ix

Ronald Reagan is widely credited for staring down the Soviet Union, rebuilding our military and our economy after the disastrous Carter years. He left office with a 63% approval rating. Once again, Ron Paul was in the minority. What exactly was Paul referring to when he referred to Reagan's "irrational and unconstitutional foreign policy"? In condemning Ronald Reagan's "indiscriminate military spending," we can see now that his teaming up with radical leftist and conservative-hater Barney Frank to slash the Defense budget is nothing new. Paul has been trying to slash defense spending for years!

 In 1988, during his campaign for the White House as the nominee of the Libertarian Party, Paul said this about Ronald Reagan: "I think we can further thank Ronald Reagan of course, for doing a good job. He certainly did a good job pointing out in 1980 the fallacies of the Democratic liberal agenda. He certainly did a good job on following up, showing the disaster of the conservative agenda as well."x

Ron Paul: Hostile To Values Issues

 While Ron Paul says he is pro-life and presents himself as a pro-family conservative, he has frequently voted against pro-life, pro-family legislation. Consider the following examples:

o 1999 -- voted against the Child Custody Protect Act, which would make it illegal to take a minor girl across state lines to get an abortion in violation of her home state's parental notification laws.xi

o 1999 -- voted against the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which would make it a separate crime to injure or kill an unborn child in any assault against a pregnant woman.xii

o 1999 -- voted against the Pain Relief Promotion Act (anti-euthanasia legislation)xiii

o 1999 -- voted against the Religious Liberty Protection Actxiv

o 1999 -- voted against school choice legislationxv

o 2001 -- again voted against the Unborn Victims of Violence Actxvi

o 2001 -- voted against the Human Cloning Prohibition Actxvii

o 2001 -- voted against school choice legislationxviii

o 2002 -- again voted against the Child Custody Protection Actxix

o 2003 -- again voted against the Human Cloning Prohibition Actxx

o 2003 -- voted against school choice legislation -- for the third timexxi

o 2004 -- voted against the Unborn Victims of Violence Act -- for the third timexxii

o 2004 -- voted against the Federal Marriage Amendmentxxiii

o 2005 -- voted against the Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act (reaffirming state parental notification laws)xxiv

o 2006 -- again voted against the Federal Marriage Amendmentxxv

 Ron Paul left the Republican Party in 1988 to run for president as the candidate of the pro-choice Libertarian Party. At that time, the Libertarian Party platform supported "the right of women to make a personal choice regarding the termination of pregnancy.''xxvi


 Ron Paul has suggested that the 9/11 investigation was a cover-up and called for a new investigation headed by left-wing radical Dennis Kucinich.xxvii

 Ron Paul opposed the killing of Osama bin Laden and said that if he had been president he would not have ordered the SEAL raid into Pakistan.xxviii This position, like many others, puts Paul in a very small minority. According to a Gallup poll, 93% of Americans supported the killing of bin Laden, while just 5% opposed it.xxix

 In 2008, when virtually all conservatives were working to prevent the election of Barack Obama, Ron Paul refused to endorse the Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, and instead told his supporters to vote for one of four third party One of them was Green Party nominee Cynthia McKinney -- an anti-Semitic, anti-Israel socialist who accused George W. Bush of allowing the 9/11 attacks to happen.xxxi


Ronald Reagan was no Ronald Reagan and everything Paul said about him was true. His wasteful military expenditures and constant belligerance almost resulted in a Soviet nuclear missile launch in 1985 in response to a mistake by Moscow on a weather rocket launched from Norway. Mocow never alerted the forward radar stations of the Strategic Rocket Forces and a colonel had 10 minutes to decide if the rocket was a first strike or not. He decided a lone missile could not be a first strike.

I worked in defense then and it was massive waste every day. The idea that the Soviet Union collapsed because of Reagan is nonsense, just something for the rubes. The USSR collapsed under its own weight of an empire that collected nothing from the vassal states while bleeding itself, just like our empire.

As far as the rest of Reagan - he looked the other way on illegal immigration as it helped destroy the labor movement. He gave them a fraud ridden amnesty with an immigration court system so convoluted nobody who doesn't want to can be deported. His administration looked the other way while meat packing companies sent busses to Mexico to get strikebreakers.

His administration gave us free trade, the neocons, guest workers, expanding the war on drugs while the CIA was importing them resulting in militarized police, expanding affirmative action giving disadvantaged status to Hassidic Jews and east Indians, and deficits as far as the eye can see.

He paid for the failure of Reaganomics by accelerating the FICA tax increases put together under Carter to keep Social Security solvent. Rather than increase the taxes on the people he cut them for he passed those taxes onto everybody in the form of higher FICA taxes - looking out for the little guy again.

His banking deregulation and looking the other way for Wall Street crooks gave us the S&L fiasco and was the dry run for the housing bubble where they learned how to steal all they want and stay out of jail.

He got the Marines in Beirut killed because of his stupidity when the Russians outsmarted him and indicated that they would go in if not us. Bonzo takes the bait and sends US troops in after the US Navy had just been shelling Lebannon. Don't worry Reagan the warrior President conquered the construction workers building an airport in Grenada to make us all forget.

The list goes on and on but anybody in the Republican Party smart enough to see the real Reagan and what he stood for (free designer dresses for Nancy and that's about it) is a guy we should get behind.

Wow. Sounds like you are a bitter man. Surely not a conservative. Also it seems you have have a drinking problem because only people with limited cognitive skills could make so many factual errors in whine.

First, to say Reagan was responsible for government waste set in place by Jimmy Carter and others is absolutely idiotic. Not only did they have to rebuild a military gutted and overlooked by Crazy Carter, the Reagan administration actually introduced more reforms and oversight in government contracting that any president since Eisenhower. It was under Reagan, for example, that the Federal Acquisition Regulations were first established. GET YOUR DAMN FACTS RIGHT.

I'm so happy you think the USSR simply caved by itself. Of course that liberal revisionist bit of psychosis is easily disproved by reading the a dozen memoirs of retired KGB and Gorbachev himself. You're a frickin moron to try and make any other case. Lech Walensa and current Eastern European leaders who were tortured and targeted as they tried to gain freedom prior to Reagan/Thatcher/Pope JP2 don't hold national Reagan holidays because they thought otherwise. Even OBAMA of all people has publicly acknowledged this. GET YOUR DAMN FACTS STRAIGHT!

Now you truly show your ignorance on matters economic. EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENT WHO HAS CUT TAXES INCLUDING JFK, CLINTON, BUSH2 and REAGAN have seen resurgent economies. And by EVERY MEASURE - the poor are better off because more people have more prosperity not just to increase jobs - but to GIVE. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

Reagan's memoir which I'm guessing you haven't read recounts many sorrows at failures he had, and there were many. But considering Carter drove the military and national pride into the sewer and Clinton gave away military secrets to the Chinese (and N. Korea) - I'm not sure exactly who you think is better.

Your utter disrespect and inability to show any intellectual balance for a man THE WORLD
acknowledges as one of the greatest leaders of all time tells me you have another agenda. And likely it is a very dishonest one.

If you are a Paul supporter, keep doing stupid comments like this. It will drive more and more people away from your deranged (at least on foreign policy) idol.

If by "deranged" you mean accurately referenced and footnoted FACTS - not baseless emotional hyperbole as you did - then sure.

Come back and try again when you get an intellect. Or at least can provide substantative arguments

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